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Troubleshooting

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Getting Started
Licensing Problems
Metronome and Ensemble-Syncing Problems
Recording Problems
Saving Problems
Error Messages
 
 

 

Nothing happens when I click "Calculate" on the "Set-up" page.

As long as your browser displays signs that your recording hardware is being used (Chrome: a red 'record' dot symbol appears on the CL tab of your browser; Firefox: the orange camera icon appears in the middle top of your browser window), Cyborg Llama is working as expected, and the beeping calibration is about to begin.

If your browser gives signs that recording hardware is active, but beeping never begins AND you see the "frowny-face" error:

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please follow the troubleshooting steps for the "frowny-face" error message here.

If your browser gives signs that recording hardware is active, but the beeping never begins (but you don't get the frowny-face above), your browser is likely having trouble interacting with your microphone. Check to see if your microphone works any differently on another site in the same browser (for example, here [make sure to open in the same browser you're using for CL!]).

  

Please also make sure that your browser is not denied permission to your camera/microphone.  There are two levels at which your browser could be denied permission, sometimes without your knowledge:​

  • Browser Level

    • for directions how to check permissions granted/denied at the browser level, you can google "give [Chrome/Firefox] access​ to camera and microphone"

  • Operating System Level​

    • for directions how to check permissions granted/denied at the OS level, you can google "permission to camera and microphone [Mac/Windows {insert your version of windows here}] OS"​

If you have confirmed your hardware has permission to your browser at both of the above levels and the beeping for calibration does not begin, please restart your computer.

 

 

Can I use "Incognito"/"Private Browsing Mode" with Cyborg Llama?

We recommend never using Incognito/Private Browsing Mode.

However, if you must use Incognito Mode, you must modify your browser's default incognito/security settings to enable third party local storage.

 
 

 

 

My student has not received licensing that I have given them.

Please know that it may take up to 1 hour for licensing to be granted once you make a request for licensing for a specific user.  If it has been longer than 1 hour, there are two courses of action, one for you and one for your student:

 

For you:

  • Go to 'Manage Subscription';

  • Enter your student's email address in the 'Check License Status';

  • Follow directions contained in the results.

For your student: 

  • Refresh the app page.

If neither of the above solves the problem, there has likely been a spelling error in the address granted licensing.  We recommend exchanging screenshots of the correct address to reduce confusion about the spelling.

If the problem persists, you may submit a Problem Report.

My student can't see projects I have shared with them.

Please double check the list of "Editors" on the project folder in your Google Drive, and verify that the student's Google Account address is listed as "Editor".  If their Google Account is listed as an "Editor" for the project in question, it is not possible for that the project is not accessible on CL.  It is possible that the student is not logged into the same Google Account you shared with, or that there has been a minor spelling error in the Account address.

 
 

 

I can't see projects that have been shared with me.

First check with your project host to verify with which Google Account address the folders have been shared.  Make sure that you are logged into the Google Account with which the project has been shared.  You can easily tell which Google Account you're logged into by checking the 'user' listed under the "Account" icon on the app:

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If you discover you're logged into an account that the projects have not been shared with, you will need to log out and log back in with the correct account:

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I have purchased a subscription to Cyborg Llama but it still says I'm using the "Free" version.

Please know that it may take up to 1 hour for licensing to be granted after your subscription purchase.  As stated in the "Important Purchasing Instructions" available on the purchase page, you must use the same Google Account address to connect to Cyborg Llama that you used to purchase the subscription.  If you suspect there has been a spelling error in the Google Account address you input for subscription licensing, please contact us within 7 days of purchase for a refund.

 

If it has been longer than 1 hour, you should refresh the page.

If the Google Account address on your subscription receipt exactly matches the Google Account you are connecting to Cyborg Llama, AND it has been more than 1 hour since your purchase, you can submit a Problem Report.

 

 

 

I have been given licensing to use the full version of CL as a secondary user, but my homepage still says I'm using the "Free" version.

Please know that it may take up to 1 hour for licensing to be granted once your project creator/primary user has made the request on your behalf. 

 

If it has been longer than 1 hour, you should refresh the app page.

It is not possible for your address to have been given licensing but for licensing to not have been granted.  Please ask your project creator to send you a screenshot of the results of their 'Check License Checker' after searching for your Google Account.  Verify that the address has been spelled correctly. 

 

 

 

Why am I not with the metronome and/or the reference tracks when I listen back?

If you were certain you were playing 'with' the metronome/reference tracks while recording, but you don't sound 'together' when you play back your recording, it is because your computer hasn't been able to achieve the latency measurements that it calculated on the 'Setup' page.  There are many reasons why your computer may have been unsuccessful in achieving the latency in recording that it calculated at Setup. 

 

Below are some important things to keep in mind when triaging a syncing problem:

  1. Always use WIRED headphones (wireless headphones will not reliably work);

  2. Close all other applications (especially other high-processing programs like Zoom, Google Meets, movie-editing software, etc) AND browser tabs (especially sites that play media like Facebook, Instagram, Youtube, Netflix, etc)  so that Cyborg Llama is the ONLY application open;

  3. Plug your device into a power source;

  4. Completely close and restart your browser;

  5. Use "Nudge".  Tutorials here.

If you'd like to know more about syncing issues, you can continue reading below:

If your latency measurements on the calibration page fluctuate more than 50 milliseconds (0.050) between multiple calibrations, we strongly recommend you use a different microphone.  Cyborg Llama cannot correct for microphones with very unpredictable latencies.

If you regularly experience syncing issues, you should try to get a sense of what your average calculated latency is.  To do this, you should calculate multiple times while on the 'Setup' page, and get a sense of what the average final calculation is.  Once you know what the average is, you can choose to re-calculate if the first calculation is more than 50 (.050) milliseconds off from your normal average range.

For example, I always end up needing to calibrate my microphone twice.  The first time it calibrates, it always calculates a latency of 400-500 (0.400-0.500) milliseconds.  I know for my computer this is not accurate, because I have a sense of what a 'normal' latency calculation is for my device.  The second/third/fourth/etc time I calibrate, it always calculates between 220-240 (0.220-0.240) milliseconds.  It doesn't matter what your own latency measurement is, just as long as it is an accurate, consistent measurement.

 
 

 

 

I’ve recorded but there is no sound/video, or there is some other problem with the sound/video.

If there is no sound/video on your recording, this is because EITHER:

a. your camera and/or mic were denied permission at either the browser or operating system level

b. there is a problem with the hardware or hardware set up;

c. your browser is set to to very high security settings, or has some other settings that prevent successful recording.

 

1) how to diagnose and solve a problem with camera/mic denied permission:

To learn how to check permission to your camera/mic at the browser level, depending on your browser and OS, you can google "how to give permission to camera and microphone in [Firefox/Chrome] on [Windows/Mac/Chromebook]".

To learn how to check permission to your camera/mic at the operating system level, depending on your machine, you can google "how to give permission to camera and microphone on [Windows 7/10/etc/Mac/Chromebook]"

2) how to diagnose and solve a problem with the hardware or hardware set up:

As long as your browser displays signs that your recording hardware is being used (Chrome: a red 'record' dot symbol appears on the CL tab of your browser; Firefox: the orange camera icon appears in the middle top of your browser window), Cyborg Llama is working as expected, and should successfully record your audio and video.  If CL is unsuccessful with its recording, there is a problem with the camera and/or microphone:

There are many websites where you can check how your camera (my favorite are here and here) and mic are working.  Make sure to run these tests in the same browser you using for Cyborg Llama, AND that you run the tests on the same camera and mic you are using for CL.  Cyborg Llama does not interact with video/audio processing.  You will need to troubleshoot hardware problems with the products’ manufacturer. 

3) how to diagnose and solve a problem with the browser settings:

Avoid using Private browsing mode in Firefox and Incognito Mode in Chrome.  If nothing else has worked to fix your video/audio problem, switch to using a different browser.  Please note that Chromebook users will not be able to switch to using Firefox.

 

 

We are aware of a particular problem with the Firefox browser mis-remembering your settings, and occasionally denying permission to your camera/microphone without your knowledge.  The below is a walk-through specific to resetting Firefox's memory of your browser camera/microphone permission settings:

 

There is a metronome sound on my recording even though all the recorded collaborators are wearing headphones.

This is because there has been headphone bleed.  It is a common audio problem unrelated to CL.  You can identify the source of the bleed by hitting the 'Solo' button for one part at a time and checking on which part(s) you hear the metronome sound.  

We don't really know anything about audio recording.  The simplest and cheapest ways that we know to reduce or eliminate headphone bleed are:

  1. DO NOT use any microphones included on your headphones or headset; try selecting a microphone for recording that you will be able to physically distance your headphones from; 

  2. turning down the metronome recording volume, and;

  3. standing further away from the microphone so that the microphone is less likely to pick up the sound bleeding from the headphones.

 
 

 

 

There is "popping"/"clicking" in my recorded audio.

"Popping"/"clicking" may appear if your machine is not able to keep up with the recording speed.  What happens is your machine starts 'tripping' over a recorded audio stream that is moving too quickly for it to process; the clicks and pops are bits of old audio that show up throughout the recording.

 

Before anything else, try closing all other applications and plugging your device into a power source; these two things will reduce the processing burden on your machine and may give it the extra boost it needs to keep up with the recording speed.  Sometimes a good full device shut down and restart also helps.

If there are still "pops"/"clicks" in your recorded audio, AND you do not have any external audio device:

Go to "Preferences" and select "Favor Quality" under "Audio Mode".  Though this setting may solve your audio problem, you may find that the latency measurement accuracy suffers.  But don't worry!  You can correct for any latency inaccuracies using the "Nudge" feature.

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If there are still "pops"/"clicks" in your recorded audio, AND you DO have an external audio device/sound card/preamp:

You will need to increase your buffer size.  The buffer size is the amount of time your machine allows to process audio of your sound card or audio interface.  Especially if you are using an external mic or preamp, these devices will often times default to a very small buffer size.  This is not necessarily bad, but if the default buffer size is too small, your computer might not be able to keep up.

How to increase the buffer size will differ according to the equipment you're using.  We recommend googling "how to increase buffer size [make and model of your external mic/sound card/preamp]". 

 

How big should your buffer size be?  It will depend on your device setup, and you may need to guess and check what is the right buffer size for your setup specifically with Cyborg Llama.  For reference, 128 samples is a very small buffer size.  Increasing the buffer size to 256 samples may solve the problem, but if not, you could try 512, or go all the way up to 1,024.

 

 

I have set up my external camera/microphone in "Set Up", but Cyborg Llama isn't using the equipment I've specified for my recordings.

We are aware of a particular problem in the Chrome browser that will sometimes require an extra step to set up your hardware.  Please review the screenshots below to learn how to work around this Chrome bug. The example below shows what to do if your specified camera is not being used to record as expected. 

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I’ve done my recording, but the “Processing” bar never progresses to “Click to Save” - what do I do?

If the “Processing” bar never progresses to “Click to Save” this is likely because your Google Drive does not have enough space.  Check your Drive's available storage.  Besides creating a new Google Account for Cyborg Llama use, you can also clear any unsaved takes and cached files from your drive space.  To learn how to delete unsaved takes and cached files safely, please watch the tutorial below:

 
 
 

 

 

I’ve recorded and clicked "Click to Save", but the page is stuck on "Loading"

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Don't worry!  Once CL reaches the "Loading" screen, your take has saved.  It is safe to restart your browser.

I’m experiencing extremely long loading times.

CL works from your browser and because of this, as with any browser functioning, CL will experience a degradation of performance the longer it remains open.  You should plan to completely close and restart your browser regularly.  

CL will also run slowly if you have other high-processing applications running simultaneously.  You can improve loading times by closing other applications.  

If neither of these options improves the loading times, restart your computer.

If your loading times are EXTREMELY extremely long, go here for troubleshooting for an 'infinite' load time.

 

 

When I double-check the Individual Mode link I want to submit for my assignment it just takes me to an ‘all-reference-track’ page, and my recording isn’t there. 

Make sure that you have clicked “Get Assignment Link” and are using that link to submit.  Copying the URL will not link to your assignment.

 

 

The metronome is irregular/the videos are abnormally laggy/the audio is abnormally glitchy/other unexpected and weird stuff.

First, plug in your machine to a power source, if it is not already plugged in. 

If the problem persists, make sure all other applications are closed, including other browser tabs (especially those that deal with media, such as YouTube, Facebook, etc). 

If the problem persists, try restarting your browser. 

If the problem persists, try restarting your computer. 

If the problem persists, reboot your computer (completely shut down and restart). 

If the problem persists, you can "Submit a Problem Report" on the Cyborg Llama app homepage.

 

 

 

"Your browser is having trouble running Cyborg Llama."

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This error occurs when Cyborg Llama has been attempting to load code for more than 10 seconds.  Normally this means that your browser needs to be restarted or updated, as the message suggestions. 

However, a poor internet connection can also delay Cyborg Llama's loading time for more than 10 seconds, which will also generate this error.  If this is the case, this error is only temporary: once some code is able to load, the error will disappear.

This error could also display if you are use "Incognito Mode" (see "Can I use Incognito Mode?" for more info). 

 

 

 

The "frowny-face" error

The "frowny-face" error can occur in the Chrome browser after the "Get Ready" screen, but before Cyborg Llama actually begins recording, OR while calibrating your microphone.  We recommend three possible solutions to this problem, listed below.

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1.  Disable all browser extensions.  Below is a tutorial from MDTechVideos on how to disable extensions in Chrome.

2. Reset Chrome.  Directions how to do this are in screenshots below:

Step 1:

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Step 2:

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Step 3:

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3. Disable 'Stream Trimming'.  This should only be done as a last resort.  Keeping 'stream trimming' enabled improves CL loading times and performance by recording videos at the export target resolution.  Disabling 'stream trimming' will record videos at full resolution which will length loading times.  However, disabling 'stream trimming' will eliminate the frowny-face error.  

'Stream Trimming' is located on the "Preferences" page of the CL app.

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This error can occur under the following circumstances:

1. Your project creator hasn't shared the project with you.

  • Ask the project creator to send you a screenshot of their list of collaborators.  Verify that your address is spelled correctly, and that you are listed as an "Editor", not a "Viewer".

2. You are logged into the wrong account

  • Log out and back in with the correct account:

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"A download url was unable to be obtained"

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This error normally occurs when your Google Account doesn't have enough storage.  If this is the case, you can quickly free up unnecessary Cyborg-Llama-related files by compressing all projects on the "Preferences" page (tutorial here).

If you clearly have enough storage in your Google Account, try disabling all Chrome extensions or Firefox add-ons.  It could be that one of these is blocking your connection.  

If none of the above suggestions work, try using a different browser.  If you are using Chrome, try Firefox.*  If you're using Firefox, try Chrome.

*Please note that Chromebook users will not be able to switch to Firefox.  CL only works on Chrome on Chromebooks.

 

 

 

"A problem repeatedly occurred"

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This error can occur on mobile devices, after the browser has failed to load the project's data.  This means that the page you are trying to load requires more working memory (RAM) than your device has.  You will need to use a different device to access that page.

 
 

 

 

Infinite loading time

If you are receiving a specific error message while stuck on "loading", please refer to the table of contents "Error Messages" and look up troubleshooting for that specific error message.

If Cyborg Llama is stuck on a loading page 'infinitely' (more than 5 minutes), this could be because:

  1. An extension/add-on is blocking your connection.  Please disable ALL extensions/add-ons.  If you are using a device that has certain extensions/add-ons administratively enabled and you cannot manually disable them (such as a school-issued Chromebook), please talk to your tech department about what can be done to allow Cyborg Llama to run.  Please let us know if you need any help cancelling your subscription.

  2. Your browser/firewall/router/hardware/other device component is preventing the browser from performing network requests.  Please check for security settings that may be blocking these connections.

  3. You may need to switch browsers.  IE if you're using Firefox, you should switch to using Chrome, and if using Chrome, switch to Firefox (Please note that it is only possible for Chromebook users to use Chrome).

  4. Your browser may need to be restarted.

  5. Your computer may need to be restarted.

If none of the above suggestions solve your issue, follow directions to "Submit a Problem Report" on the CL homepage.  Please refer to the above troubleshooting steps in your problem report and the outcome of each line of investigation.